You cant retake a fallback position as it wouldn't be "Falling Back". 2. How to use submarines properly. You can usually replace the logistics company with support AA and mitigate the. Even shorter for something like India. If the enemy is defending with medium tanks, you can attack with heavies to secure the armor bonus for yourself, deny it to the enemy, and have a lot. CryptoEven if you got enough autonomy to become free, you won't be able to, as you NEED to do the abandon westminster focus. Report. ViniciusSinged • 21 days ago. So this is not bathtub strat (Cool victory tho comrad). Exemple US Submarine . Tier 4 Subs can also do a great job sinking the enemies fleet unless you get tricked into convoy raiding a sea tile full of exclusively sub hunting destroyers. "Carrier Battles" is a good game series about Carrier fighting. ago Instead of doing sub spam, I prefer making a good surface fleet. Also spam some naval bombers and put them in the attack english channel mode. I prefer to build my navy slowly and spam submarines to make naval invasion. Navies in HOI4 had a pretty strict setup - for every capital ship, you need four screen ships. Although i did notice that doesnt work 100% of the time, seems to be mostly the case with Newspaper Events. 2. -Make submarine -Upgrade -Make better submarine -Upgrade -Make pre-top Submarine with top torpedoes. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game…Now before you declare war on Romania, stack some of your puppets divisions along your fronts lines if you feel your army is inferior but ensure your lines are also capable of pushing up. Not surprised at the end result. Join my discord:. com] with the 'hourly change' value and the 'Base detection. 1. Yay for cheapest interwar tank you can make for garrison (if you don't want to just use cav + captured rifles), nay for anything that gets deployed on the map. Afterwards I left their faction and declared war on. Business, Economics, and Finance. The way naval hit probabilities work in hoi4, it's a reasonable concept. These are very weak ships, and thus you can try to destroy them before they become problematic. Inside a tank division to help maintain the speed of light or mesium tanks, and boosting org, hp, and defense. On infantry 40 widths you can go 12-4-4 inf-art-AA with support AA and you'll take no penalty. ago. If you want to, subscribe!Link to Discord: to Steam G. The Nova Politicus SMP is a realistic geopolitical/world building SMP where players are situated across the earth and make their own realistic countries. ago. The convoy escort gives +30% escort efficiency, which is pretty good because it lowers the number of escort ships required, and +20% sub detection for DDs. If you justify on the Netherlands in 36 and spam out your 36 subs and just add mines to them you can hold them off with one army and just lay mines until you are ready to finish the war. They only thing that you could do is change it from a civil war to a normal war. Any-Squirrel-3953 • 9 mo. You'll achieve more with planes at sea, so build planes, and don't build dockyards. Now start the game in admin mode through the exe file in the steam folder (not through steam itself). spawn [<SubUnit Type>] [<Province ID>] [<Amount>]This is the most powerful doctrine for surface action. Task Force Admiral looks good. Destroyers have torpedoes 20% weaker than Light Cruisers and 1/3 the strength of Submarines. ago. 299k members in the hoi4 community. I'm not sure if the same rules apply here in Darkest Hour. submarines can only really kill capital ships well but thats if theres a good amount of submarines and only a few capitalships (No screens or else subs will get massacred, even in a doomstack) but going down the submarine doctrine tree can make the subs really good at massacring convoys. Sure but there is still sea access from London to Alexandria (supply hub for Africa), it just goes through Panama, the Pacific, and through the Red Sea. Also just bypass the fort/mountain. 11. 56. Reply Fun. Very few focus tree mods are good imo, they are often times super overpowered. If at all possible in any capacity, get a desktop. If they hit 0 manpower before you you win. This still sucks so hard compared to submarines. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. It's only a game when there are understandable rules. That Screen is bugged. Also subs count less towards naval supremacy. Friendly fire from the thousands of shells from the 33 Japanese battleships. Third Reich; Trade Interdiction for subs maxed; have all sub tech except for torpedo launcher 4; already have that advisor. any tactic will defeat AI. I am not an expert by any means, but I feel fairly competent with most of the game's mechanics. It is the most efficient in responding to the escort needs of convoys and in anti-submarine warfare. anti air seems useless when playing the soviets the areas are so huge a. It works against countries that dont have a large naval group and as a small naval power theres not really the option of doing much else. jmjwrskp • 9 mo. 10. Their survivability is in their speed. I don't get supremacy and neither win naval battles to weaken the enemy. ago. If a ship's anti air attack is below 5, the weight is increased by 5 * (5 - <AA>). For example, somebody who is in modern day Tunisia could make Tunisia, Tunis, Carthage, etc. Franco-British union ftw! I should play a game as france hold out as long as I can. No navy except maximum submarine spam. They need to HURT. 2. Even then, at any given level of production, you're making 18% more DEs, making about 6 escorts per 5 fleet destroyers. For every 1 point in Sub Detection you get +1,8% Chance of finding the enemy Submarine. Simple solution. this is good but don't spam these as screens. It's mostly well balanced if you play on historical. 1. I haven't found anything within the original timeline that is worthwhile. Description Discussions 1 Comments 252 Change Notes. Meaning your division is 100% more effective at everything, attacking, or defending. But this is a paradox-wide quality problem right now, probably an issue of budget or management or something, so it's hard for me to lay blame on the HoI4 team. Never tried it myself but if I catched it up correctly, you can use (at least in Multiplayer) to trick your enemy. I have played against sub 3 spam and don't find it any different or that much harder to kill than sub 2's. Destroyers are about 1/3 the Ainti-Air strength of a Light Cruiser, which is the most cost-effective ship for AA (outside of a carrier with fighters). Firstly is the torpedo-ships. Having air superiority is super important for spotting and battle. Heavy tanks are good for fighting other tanks, like lights or mediums or other heavies. Secondly are the heavy cruisers. a. If I'm not mistaken, if You want to produce even some crappy planes, You need to research three things: airflame, engine and some guns. ago. Join. 005 * ship production cost in industrial capacity (IC) + 0. When the AI builds Carriers I believe they are 50% Fighter and 50% Naval Bomber. From what I've seen when you get 90% or higher army intel you also get intel on fake divisions. lancefighter • 4 yr. dishhawkjones • 2 yr. So this is not bathtub strat (Cool victory tho comrad). Until they find you, that is. HOI4 takes liberties with reality in that having lower penetration values than the targets armor reduces damage but does not totally eliminate it. ago. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Just using the best templates won’t be enough to win every battle. Submarines OP. 386 votes, 29 comments. And that's the list of useful options for naval combat. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game…I would nominate the Netherlands (who starts with a respectable navy albeit far from that of a major) and Portugal, for the second if you go royalist and recover Brasil you have the base to build a navy. 203. This video serves as an easy to get into guide regarding submarines and it's various viable templates. 364K subscribers in the hoi4 community. 8K subscribers Subscribe 2. ago. UI scale option experimental? Looking in game options menu, UI scale is labeled as 'experimental' with option to set UI scale from 0. For example with democratic ideology, it looks like this democratic = { types = { conservatism = { } liberalism = { } socialism = { } } there are…Cover more of the target state. The way supply hubs distribute supply in general is also extremely strange, but that's a separate. I play as Germany and war is about to break out in 1939. Should you have only part of them your paratroopers should. k. I'm trying to imagine the submarine shooting down airplanes while simultaneously sinking 4 ships. C. They work ok i guess, havent tried that yet, but if you spam as much torpedoes as possible on them and spam light cruiser, im gonna actually try this tomorow, but i think they do ok, best loght cruisers have 126. 1. Additional advantage of submarine spam is that you can really streamline it technology wise and have much quicker doctrines researched. Rush 1940 sub and snorkel. Win. a other light cruisers + destroyers and allow the capitals, heavy cruisers & carriers to be destroyed by anything that breathes on them. Or there is a meta going around where people spam cheap destroyers with a large amount of torpedo's on it. Convoys can carry troops for naval invasion across the see regions that you have "naval supremacy" and if you spam submarines from the start, you will get your naval supremacy sooner or later with submarines. r/hoi4. If you are ussr and your are going for a late build and you build civs until mid 39, dont rush imrpoved machine tool branch go instead dispersed construction make ready your tanks and after that research these before start producing heavily. Yes that's true but to say it wouldn't have been a game changer is a bit of a stretch. I swear every time I try to use paratroopers they give me a headache, the times where they simply wouldn't launch are more that the ones where they worked! CommanderEggnog • 2 min. Looks like. ago. Conclusion: CVs are underpowered in this 1. Do not forget to set them to "not engage". Japan either goes full into Yamamoto mode and makes super heavy battleships maximizing heavy attack. Set. This thread is archived. It might have been patched in the beta 1. I use tanks for occupation, go for the craziest possible. Good light cruisers are excellent uses of. All navy production and tech to submarines Total airforce (end game) of about 600 fighters and 1200 bombers. Any ideas? This thread is archived. They all run to the back of the boat to tilt the bow up, then fire a torpedo. Something like this happens in the Chinese Civil war too. 2. America Meridionalis: Central & South America Expanded is a mod that seeks to rework every nation in Central and South America plus the Caribbean's. The air war is a crucial part of winning any Hoi4 game. 1. [deleted] • 7 yr. There are 2 ways to use them. One reason for the division spam, from what I have read multiple times on the forums, is that the developers encourage the AI to build many divisions. Then, when I invaded the Soviet Union later in the game, I got Leningrad, got Vichy France to transfer control of the state of Stalingrad to me, made sure all states were fully owned by me, then I used console commands to make Ile de France mine for a little bit so I could proclaim the Greater German Reich. 25 Duodecillion minimal Battalion templates. In this short tutorial esque guide I will show how the current best way to counter the Axis sub spam, as the Allies (specifically the United Kingdom). ago. CryptoIs production efficiency cap hard capped at 100%? Let us say i have a mod (in this case kaiserreich) which gives me the opportunity of increasing production efficiency cap using focuses so it could theoretically go beyond 100%. That's just off the top of my head though. After that, pressing H will do the job. For your all around infantry template you can go 7 infantry, 2 artillery, support art, engineer, recon, support anti. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. Im playing in the Millenium Dawn mod, as USA, and I'm planning on invading Afghanistan, but don't know how to approach an invasion. As long as your carrier is on a mission (such as Strike Force), then the air wings will automatically engage when the fleet moves to attack. So there currently two populair navy strategies that I see floating around. destroyers also get one shot by p. ago. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game…A few things could be happening, the air bases could be over crowded, even by just a few will totally ruin them. Motorized are largely just faster infantry. Are there any mods or alternate maps that remove the naval aspect of the game so I can just draw battle plans and design tanks/planes/divisions to my heart's content?The planning bonus affects every statistic. 1. ago. 2. Build lots of Fighters / Strategic Bombers to slow down German production. This makes them heavy cruisers so they get protected by your Destroyers. Also subs count less towards naval supremacy. 225. Battleship Designs. Submarine Wolfpack --- Minimum: 20 Subs; Sweet Spot: 30 Subs; Maximum: 50 Subs; Raiding Group --- Minimum: 5 DDs, 25 Subs OR 5 CLs, 25 Subs; Convoy. So I build an airbase, and before I can select some planes to put in the airbase, my allies put 5000 planes in a level one airbaseBest. Fingers crossed. 0 coins. 2. Yes, you can select the British Raj and have a fascist or communist coup. gaoruosong • 3 yr. I have about 60 submarines and would like to convoi raid Great Britain. Never miss a thing. For division stats, the different modifiers are multiplicative. BETA SGp - Save Game Parser - extracts statistics from SGc. You cant ever build historical Japanese DDs. See more. I've never tried cloud save but Ironman save can be corrupted easily if you forcefully quit the game. ago. 1. E. Lose form the Franco British Union then do the. High supply divisions offer good quality, but make you have less units in total. They pack armor against gun damage, can tank significant amounts of damage and deal a good amount of it. By 1940 tech level, the DEs cost 1150 and the DDs cost 1900. Great War Mod Cant Find Research For Some Technology. [deleted] • 7 yr. Mix them into your infantry divisions in limited quantities to give them a bunch of armor and extra punch. Mines screw with enemies, make them slow down and stuff. 3. Against a stronger naval opponent we can focus on tying up their fleet and destroying supply lines to starve their war machine. Heavy tank destroyers and SPArt are both really good. 005 * ship production cost in industrial capacity (IC) + 0. Typically, they are destroyers or submarines for maximum spam. g Banana Empire Panama taking over Mexico. It's the meta for a reason. Sub 3’s are very good, and they are very quick to build. The weaknesses are enemy airpower, good ASW cruisers, or destroyer spam (but destroyers only deter and not kill). Generalfaster • 1 hr. The AI doesn't produce the second and destroyer spam is best killed by good cruisers. No they aren’t great at pushing but in China you should be using just 14-4s and 10-0s as a backup. Base Strike is more focused on Carriers & Naval Bombers. Each country has its own unique background, ideology, government, economy, resources, currency, etc. IIRC when you plan an airborne invasion you have to assign one of your airport as the launching point (just as you do with naval one from a port) and the assigned units should move there. Perhaps whatever nation you are does as well? Higher level naval hulls give higher range. You can also do a double motorized for even more supply but you’ll eat your trucks doing it. r/hoi4. Fargel_Linellar • 1 mo. After download I noticed that my mods are stuck at 100% (title). ago. Whenever you get air superiority spam nukes. And secondarily attacking enemy ships. Never miss a thing. Naval supremacy of ship = 100. Spam basic infantry and forts, and try to get Italy on your side. Look at the spanish civil war and the indian liberation army. But you have to do every nation separately. Spain is also good, although you have to go first through the civil war. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 12 comments. DN = dreadnought. txt event 27) (uh if youre looking for specific. 0 + 0. Spamming submarines, though dumb at first, can be surprisingly effective. lancefighter • 4 yr. Build Destroyers + Sonar + Depth Chargers. I've read mines help with naval supremacy and they are relatively efficient submarine wise. If they are torpedo destroyers, you can dunk on your opponent and also use light attack heavy cruisers to kill them. But that would take a lot of modding work to make happen. That war is over with Britain capitulated (it was over before the US got involved), but now the Nazis have 600+ mil factories, and a cheeky tag across to GER shows literally hundreds of them are churning out aircraft. Cruiser "spam" seems to have taken that place, although some of the CC community seem to be testing ways to get more crew onto a cheaper hull (since ship crew is part of the calculation for how much control a ship gives). Multiplayer sync problem : r/hoi4. [deleted] • 4 yr. Trade Interdiction: In my honest and humble opinion, if you want to spam ships which are quickly build, go for one of these. For better or for worse, magazine. If your carrier is sitting in a port or in a sea zone with no mission, then you can select the air. Build Cruisers with one cheapest heavy gun and the rest the best light guns you can get. It also can have excellent spotting and thus seems ideal for zones like the the mid Atlantic gap. They're more for convoy raiding. Bathtub is spamming out cheap crappy subs for naval supremacy (typically for naval invasions as they don't always preform the best in naval combat against non-AI players). . here is the chart. Submarine Designs. Patrol is better since it is meant to hunt, convoy defense prioritizes shielding convoys. 9. Yes you can. Were* a naval power. Instead of doing 15-5 tank-mot, do 13-5-4 tank-mot-SPAA with support AA. Their counter is Battle Cruisers. Where RRn indicates your "normal" (pre-tech) bonus to research rate, RRi indicates your "improved" (post-tech) bonus, T indicates the base time to research the tech, and D. (can construct avg 8-12/year) CL Light Cruiser – Most versatile, Moderate to expensive cost, reliable and durable Moderate to Fast speeds. 1936 Battleship. If your carrier is sitting in a port or in a sea zone with no mission, then you can select the air. Greatest HOI4 post of all time. This page was last edited on 7 May 2017, at 15:55. 1- don't do any focus until you get 50 pp and immediately justify on poland. Types of Ships. It appears to be a submarine exploit, in which you spam single submarines in the area to distract Napoleon’s fleet. Having a ton of navs basically guarantees you’ll win. allan11011 • General of the Army • 1 yr. Yup, I have an ongoing game as the anarchists where the axis became unofficial allies while I fought the real Allies. If you don't like planes like me, you can build Sub 3's with full torpedoes with level 1 snorkel and full engine, put them on 20-30 wolfpacks and put them on always engage, even better make sub 4's with full torpedoes,. 3 comments. The Bismarck and Tirpitz failed, but the Graf Spee was very successful for 4 months of unchecked convoy raiding. PeaceWalking • 4 yr. Sports. The submarine tree is a standard submarine tree for convoy raiding, not very powerful. Top posts of April 5,. AT is there to counter the immediate armor attack in MP you face after landing. The reason for submarine spamming in game and in history iis because they were cheap. So I reinstalled HoI4 and waited for mods to be reinstalled (4GB). jontelover123 • 5 yr. The long and short of it is heavy surface raiders are very easily countered by just adding more escorts to your convoys. Exemple US Submarine . ; 4 CV's and 100 DD's and CL's), but without more control over naval combat, will this just result in more losses of naval units because they suffer these criticals and slowly limp across the sealanes back towards. You could do with designing the CVE to to have surface radar, escorts with both sonar and radars to help you find the subs. This thread is archived. ago. heavy attack spam is. CA is a screen hunter to counter DD or CL spam and can't reasonably combat capital ships. DN = dreadnought. There's a huge opportunity cost to building carriers, not just in terms of MIC to build the planes and NIC to build the CV (plus their screens), but there are better uses of your research slots. No enemy airports = no red air, simple as that. I've always annihilated and been annihilated if subs/destroyers run into a large naval group. Submarine Spam. If you're running at speed 5 and using a conventional hard drive (i. 1. 765. - There are at least 15 Support Company types in the game (assuming some nation-specific ones as well like Assault Battalions) with 5 slots. Any of the same modifier will stack additively, so in your example of 10% output + 20% output, you'd have 30% output. Then this will then evenly distribute the armies over the from the line. These can be surface ships, submarines, and/or aircraft carriers. ago. Unfortunately, your choices are to either stay at speed 4 (which is still pretty fast), or upgrade your aystem. My current strategy is to drop a few divisions surrounding. 11. Naval bombers delete the screens, subs kill the convoys and capitals. 203. Heavy cruisers are the undisputed kings of light attack, mainly because they can mount light cruiser batteries in all their slots (BBs and BCs need to mount either heavy batteries or secondaries, which are far worse). Float planes were not much more useful than scout planes unless they ran into a submarine or escorted cargo ships. Not a huge savings but one that adds up. #hoi4 #news #HYPEA closer look at the new Dev Diary with a look at some changes to the Naval aspect of the game! A NEW DLC is in the works!Dev Diary: I have 500 hours on the game, mostly in multiplayer focusing on Navies since I cant micro ground forces very good. edit: Also, have you researched any naval doctrine?Surface Raiders are great at killing convoys in open space. bwhite9 General of the Army • 4 yr. For tanks the IC cost is less since you also need to train Divisions to. So while navies are fun for 'shts'n'giggles', and occasionally you need a few ships for invasions, if you're asking for what is 'effective' its air. But when I order the army to go there from Port Sudan they decide to take the land route, through Turkey, mine and Japanese USSR land and. Now I'd like to ask some questions about the naval meta. kenzieBHOSbaker • 1 min. Thank you. If you have 100 base attack, with 10% bonus from commander and 25% bonus from veterancy, your unit would have 137. Best. I seem to not be able to pass anything above 2 bar speed regardless of what setting the game speed bar is on. Greatest HOI4 post of all time. HOI4 needs a secondary Dev team (Custodian Team) with the mandate and resources to rework and improve old DLC and updates. Air superiority helps with naval superiority which helps spotting. TeaMoney4Life • 1 min. Heavy cruisers also have the speed which heavier ships lack, making them far better and finding and killing enemy ships. 3. For subs, create sub hunter fleets with 2-3 light cruisers per patrol fleet and 5-8 destroyers for the actual hunters. It is an option, you need to enable it in the host settings or it won't let a second person join. Destroyers have very weak naval guns, while Light cruiser guns are at least good for killing Destroyers. kenzieBHOSbaker • 1 min. I know monarchist and Franco spain. iirc in that case you have to delete a file called mod_registry. 1. I find the cruiser submarine available via "U-boat effort" focus to be quite good at enforcing a blockade sufficiently far from Britain. (can construct avg 2-4. Best. "Hybrid": This is what I've been trying lately. r/hoi4. 9. - Each naval region has a certain amount of superiority depending on the strength of each fleet. S. 125 IC 2Steel 1Chromium, which puts its IC/HP ratio at ~18. HOI4 Tools SGr - Save Game Recorder - records, compresses, and archives autosave files in realtime, no game impact. Ctrl alt delete open task manager, restart windows explorer. In multiplayer your results will get worse as sub tech increases, and yes that's backwards from what happened in world war 2. Delta974 • 4 yr. Above water is, very specifically: a main super strike fleet comprised of light cruisers with a single medium battery to ensure its in the secondary line, torpedo destroyers, and cheap, expendable screening destroyers; while the rest of the 9 capacity is occupied by cheap, fast, scout cruisers. Can submarines transfer troops tho might just go full submarine in my game 😭 This thread is archived. If you care about details HOI4 has a lot of design issues. 12. 3. dont know about anti air but anti tank seemed fairly usefull as attachments to infantry. 4 comments. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. json (in document/paradox interactive/hoi4) it's the list of mods you have subscribed to. [deleted] • 4 yr. Thinking_waffle Research Scientist • 4 yr. I personally divide my subs into 5 groups and set each group a target strength of 20. So yeah, it depends very heavily on situation. Hover over the unit in your division to see if it can be paradropped. If you really want to go with navy stuff go with Base Strike. ago. ago.